# Can I make a design that steam tracing line on the pipe with flange and various valves?

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**Created:** [January 9, 2023, 12:53pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/can-i-make-a-design-that-steam-tracing-line-on-the-pipe-with-flange-and-various-valves/23490 "2023-01-09T12:53:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![MKPark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@MKPark](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/MKPark)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 12:53pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/can-i-make-a-design-that-steam-tracing-line-on-the-pipe-with-flange-and-various-valves/23490/1 "2023-01-09T12:53:53Z")

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If it is possible to draw steam tracing, what functions should I use?

I look forward to your kind reply. Thank you.

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**Author:** ![TigerMike](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/tigermike/32/32650_2.png) [@TigerMike](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/TigerMike)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 4:39pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/can-i-make-a-design-that-steam-tracing-line-on-the-pipe-with-flange-and-various-valves/23490/2 "2023-01-09T16:39:10Z")

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The **Sweep** tool should work just fine.

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**Author:** ![Cjacob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Cjacob](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Cjacob)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 1:23am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/can-i-make-a-design-that-steam-tracing-line-on-the-pipe-with-flange-and-various-valves/23490/3 "2023-01-10T01:23:06Z")

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Hi Tiger Mike,

Nice video, thanks.

Question on the sweep tool. How do you “easily” run tubing on different planes? I was "playing with this for several hours yesterday and finally managed to link the two via the arc tool. It seems "difficult to link the two arc’s on the different planes, maybe I’m overlooking something? Is there a easier way?

[2023-01-10\_08-18-21.pdf](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/uploads/short-url/lgneCVm8Lb2oaeOMWITOezoPneo.pdf) (346.1 KB)

Help?

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**Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 2:21am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/can-i-make-a-design-that-steam-tracing-line-on-the-pipe-with-flange-and-various-valves/23490/4 "2023-01-10T02:21:53Z")

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Add the lines and when you want to change planes, add a plane using the **Perpendicular to Curve at Point** option and rotate it in the direction you want. As long as you give enough clearance for turns, it should work fine.

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**Author:** ![Cjacob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Cjacob](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Cjacob)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 2:41am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/can-i-make-a-design-that-steam-tracing-line-on-the-pipe-with-flange-and-various-valves/23490/5 "2023-01-10T02:41:15Z")

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Thank you for the feedback. Let me give it a try…

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**Author:** ![TigerMike](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/tigermike/32/32650_2.png) [@TigerMike](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/TigerMike)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 4:43am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/can-i-make-a-design-that-steam-tracing-line-on-the-pipe-with-flange-and-various-valves/23490/6 "2023-01-10T04:43:25Z")

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Here’s one way using **Sweep** to run tubing on an angled plane. First, add construction Axis on the two cylinders then add a construction plane using 3 points.

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**Author:** ![Cjacob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Cjacob](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Cjacob)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 6:57am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/can-i-make-a-design-that-steam-tracing-line-on-the-pipe-with-flange-and-various-valves/23490/7 "2023-01-10T06:57:32Z")

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Thank you. I will give it try.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/shapr3d/original/3X/9/3/935f2ba3c28bcdc42b1a6f840caf47f284199ff9.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![MKPark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@MKPark](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/MKPark)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 12:35pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/can-i-make-a-design-that-steam-tracing-line-on-the-pipe-with-flange-and-various-valves/23490/8 "2023-01-10T12:35:54Z")

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![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/shapr3d/original/3X/3/6/36f3b22830ce7e1f4711d30bfa0d51383a509023.jpeg)

I made the question ambiguous. I’m sorry.

If you refer to the picture, I would like to know how to draw the tracing line(The brown part of the picture) installed on the pipe.

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**Author:** ![TigerMike](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/tigermike/32/32650_2.png) [@TigerMike](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/TigerMike)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 5:15pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/can-i-make-a-design-that-steam-tracing-line-on-the-pipe-with-flange-and-various-valves/23490/9 "2023-01-10T17:15:21Z")

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You don’t have to use sketch lines when making a sweep. You can use edges as well. Sorry about the speed as I had to compress the video to make it fit in 10mb.

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 12:35am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/can-i-make-a-design-that-steam-tracing-line-on-the-pipe-with-flange-and-various-valves/23490/10 "2023-01-11T00:35:31Z")

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Wow! Thats a great alternative. Thanks

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 4:02am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/can-i-make-a-design-that-steam-tracing-line-on-the-pipe-with-flange-and-various-valves/23490/11 "2023-01-11T04:02:45Z")

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Your videos are great,I’ve learned a lot from them,  
Thanks

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**Author:** ![TigerMike](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/tigermike/32/32650_2.png) [@TigerMike](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/TigerMike)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 5:08am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/can-i-make-a-design-that-steam-tracing-line-on-the-pipe-with-flange-and-various-valves/23490/12 "2023-01-11T05:08:33Z")

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Thanks Ed. Glad to help out.  
-Mike

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Thank you so mush! Mike!  
It;s very useful

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> [@TigerMike](#):
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> Sorry about the speed as I had to compress the video to make it fit in 10mb.

If it helps you out Mike, I use the free iMovie app for editing my clips, and in Options settings I set 360 as the quality, which reduces 40mb clips to around 10mbs and the quality is fine for here.

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Thanks for the tip but I too use iMovie on my iPad Pro to do all my videos. I find that 30-35 seconds is my target max time length after I delete dead time here and there. I also use 360p resolution if need be. It’s when the time exceeds my target is when I start implementing the speed feature. I try to use it sparingly but at times I cannot.  
-Mike

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Perhaps in the near future the forum admins can increase the upload limits a bit to make things easier for us.

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When i have trouble catching something in a video i slow it down, and will sometimes magnify the area. I use a screen recorder app, and it is really quick to do. Good luck

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 2:18pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/can-i-make-a-design-that-steam-tracing-line-on-the-pipe-with-flange-and-various-valves/23490/18 "2023-01-19T14:18:05Z")

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![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/shapr3d/original/3X/1/c/1c4f90764e6d7f9a48079271625ff81ab82e807b.jpeg)

There are some difficulties in working.  
It’s hard to apply to flange, valve, or pump as shown in the picture.

Is there a way to apply them?

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**Author:** ![TigerMike](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/tigermike/32/32650_2.png) [@TigerMike](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/TigerMike)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 8:26pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/can-i-make-a-design-that-steam-tracing-line-on-the-pipe-with-flange-and-various-valves/23490/19 "2023-01-19T20:26:22Z")

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Make the most of using the **Sweep** tool. Utilize the negative space around your pump-flang-valve to create a buck or dummy path for sweeping. This example is on one plane. You can also can add 90" extrusions (or other angles) around the buck as needed to sweep in 3D.

[https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/shapr3d/original/3X/8/2/82f92a6fff582fdefc463ddcdb995708e3c11380.mov](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/shapr3d/original/3X/8/2/82f92a6fff582fdefc463ddcdb995708e3c11380.mov)

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2023, 8:33pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/can-i-make-a-design-that-steam-tracing-line-on-the-pipe-with-flange-and-various-valves/23490/20 "2023-01-19T20:33:08Z")

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You can also do the **Sweep** in segments and rotate them afterwards.

[https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/shapr3d/original/3X/7/2/72046e9f784cfb8dd6fc900d2413fb49fcc6caa6.mov](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/shapr3d/original/3X/7/2/72046e9f784cfb8dd6fc900d2413fb49fcc6caa6.mov)