# Cant copy element - red cross
**URL:** https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/cant-copy-element-red-cross/20383
**Category:** Modeling Questions
**Created:** [July 15, 2022, 8:01pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/cant-copy-element-red-cross/20383 "2022-07-15T20:01:27Z")
**Posts on this page:** 4
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### Author:  [@magze](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/magze)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2022, 8:01pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/cant-copy-element-red-cross/20383/1 "2022-07-15T20:01:27Z")
Hello
When I try to copy this element, the white dot has a red cross over it so I can’t do anything.
Why is this?
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### Author:  [@welshsteve](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/welshsteve)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2022, 8:20pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/cant-copy-element-red-cross/20383/2 "2022-07-15T20:20:40Z")
Have you double clicked to select the entire ‘pipe’ or just the surfaces?
I tried to replicate the fault and it happened to me too but only when I clicked the surface. It didn’t happen if I drew a bounding box over the entire pipe. I was unable to move the pipe.
I closed the app and re-opened and now I can’t replicate it. Not sure what I did (or didn’t do) 🤣
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### Author:  [@magze](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/magze)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2022, 9:14pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/cant-copy-element-red-cross/20383/3 "2022-07-15T21:14:23Z")
It suddenly works now 🙃
Weird!
But yes you have to double click for it to work
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### Author:  [@welshsteve](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/welshsteve)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2022, 10:10pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/cant-copy-element-red-cross/20383/4 "2022-07-15T22:10:35Z")
it certainly is weird, especially as I had the same issue when I tried which is something I don’t normally have an issue with. And even more weird that I couldn’t repeat it after closing and re-opening the app.
I’m guessing it was just a glitch.