# Construction plane

**URL:** <https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/construction-plane/6854>\
**Category:** Modeling Questions\
**Created:** [March 12, 2020, 9:54am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/construction-plane/6854 "2020-03-12T09:54:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![stringboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8c91f0/32.png) [@stringboy](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/stringboy)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 9:54am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/construction-plane/6854/1 "2020-03-12T09:54:04Z")

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Simple one… how increase the size of a construction plane without using the scale tool.  
I’m not sure what decides the initial size of the new plane but I have not been able to resize it other then scale tool.  
Cheers

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**Author:** ![tommyn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/tommyn/32/1714_2.png) [@tommyn](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/tommyn)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 2:12pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/construction-plane/6854/2 "2020-03-12T14:12:53Z")

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I have never found a way other than the Scale tool. In my usage, the plane is almost always too small. Curious why the default size is not larger? A source of frustration to be removed?

Best,

Tommy

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**Author:** ![Gelphyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/db5fbb/32.png) [@Gelphyn](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Gelphyn)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 11:56pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/construction-plane/6854/3 "2020-03-12T23:56:29Z")

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@stringboy  
The maximum coverage of an S3D Plane would seem to be the limit.

In the following note the Dimensions of the Closed Sketch Rectangle:

 ![IMG_1412](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/shapr3d/original/2X/8/81b57196e151a6ed717192c42a713347dc67e025.jpeg)

 ![IMG_1413](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/shapr3d/original/2X/f/f8f4cb0b4aa4931632c85dea32bc1062cbdc9a9b.jpeg) ![IMG_1414](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/shapr3d/original/2X/b/b7adc3a54f2bb30eae5d5ce1c3ee9fce9d45ace9.jpeg)

If you are needing a specific Size or Sizes of **Construction Plane** (s) saving them individually as **shapr. Files** would be a convenient way of opening the respective Design(s).

Remember that it is essential to keep only the generated Plane and that this could be created on any Plane of choice.

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**Author:** ![tommyn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/tommyn/32/1714_2.png) [@tommyn](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/tommyn)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 4:11pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/construction-plane/6854/4 "2020-03-13T16:11:16Z")

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Agree but I am old-school where lines and planes are essentially infinite. So making one larger just doesn’t seem quite right.

Best,

Tommy

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**Author:** ![Gelphyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/db5fbb/32.png) [@Gelphyn](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Gelphyn)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 5:17pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/construction-plane/6854/5 "2020-03-13T17:17:23Z")

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@tommyn  
I am also old-school, possibly a tad older than yours, and fully appreciate your sentiments.  
However present me with a problem and I will probably find a solution.  
To do this it may be necessary, as in this case, to find an alternative MO, or discover the limitations of the software?

Although the **Add \> Construction plane** [CP] feature indicates an area slightly larger than the Closed Sketch, chosen as the base surface, it actually covers the entire area of the S3D Plane.  
Sketch a small Circle to use as the base surface, zoom out until it is still possible to use as a starting Point for a Line and extend this beyond the White coloured CP:

 ![IMG_1418](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/shapr3d/original/2X/9/9e469b9c777d771d3d3876a1e3c6649de9a250fb.jpeg)

The CP has been Selected to show it’s limits:

 ![IMG_1419](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/shapr3d/original/2X/4/4754b0b55de30beecf449b379944226e977a0551.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![tommyn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/tommyn/32/1714_2.png) [@tommyn](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/tommyn)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 9:09pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/construction-plane/6854/6 "2020-03-13T21:09:58Z")

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Interesting! Thanks for the insight.

Best,

Tommy

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**Author:** ![Gelphyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/db5fbb/32.png) [@Gelphyn](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Gelphyn)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2020, 7:12am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/construction-plane/6854/7 "2020-03-14T07:12:07Z")

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For anyone interested, and prepared to fully read and absorb information, there is more on this subject at:

[https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/how-to-move-a-sketch-into-a-different-folder/5732](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/how-to-move-a-sketch-into-a-different-folder/5732)

For those prepared to administer the situation it is potentially practical for a single Design to contain Hundreds of Sketches.  
All perfectly usable and manageable by Hiding Sketches that are not in use.

On a large scale the Administration is likely to be more time consuming than the Design.  
Without adequate Administration it would be easy to create a messy situation.  
This gives rise to consideration of alternatives. One that I consider preferable, keeps Design File Sizes smaller rather than larger.  
One such alternative uses the **Files App** to contain **Folders** to hold **Design Files** and this will ease the burden of Administration.  
Importing only **Bodies** from the **Design Files** into an **Assembly File** will keep all things S3D at the usual rapid response rate.