# Create vines in 3D space
**URL:** https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/create-vines-in-3d-space/21732
**Category:** Modeling Questions
**Created:** [October 5, 2022, 4:48am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/create-vines-in-3d-space/21732 "2022-10-05T04:48:59Z")
**Posts on this page:** 10
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### Author:  [@nix](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/nix)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 4:48am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/create-vines-in-3d-space/21732/1 "2022-10-05T04:48:59Z")
Hello!
I was wondering if someone can show me an example on how to create a vine (like a plant vine) in 3d space. I can create the outline with splines on one plane, but I’m having a hard time trying to manipulate the spline in 3D space.
I have a model I want to weave the vine between “wooden” pegs.
Thanks so much!
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### Author:  [@Yepher](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Yepher)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 1:52pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/create-vines-in-3d-space/21732/2 "2022-10-05T13:52:14Z")
I would like to know too. I got some advice on there a while back and this was best I could do:
[https://www.printables.com/model/273995-the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-dice-roll-t](https://www.printables.com/model/273995-the-legend-of-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-dice-roll-t)
I will find the thread and post it here when I do
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### Author:  [@Yepher](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Yepher)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 1:54pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/create-vines-in-3d-space/21732/3 "2022-10-05T13:54:00Z")
This may help? [Can't figure out sweep](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/cant-figure-out-sweep/10825)
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### Author:  [@nix](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/nix)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 2:22pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/create-vines-in-3d-space/21732/4 "2022-10-05T14:22:27Z")
So far, the “best” approach I’m working with right at the moment is moving three independent circles around the objects I need in the X,Y,Z planes. I’m using the loft tool to connect the pieces to wrap around the objects. That might be the best approach I can think of. Very time consuming but it appears to be working. I wanted to see if there was a better way to do it 🙂
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### Author:  [@TigerMike](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/TigerMike)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 5:55pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/create-vines-in-3d-space/21732/5 "2022-10-05T17:55:54Z")
Here’s a way. Note the straight line after making the 3rd spline. I used it so the Move/Rotate indicator would line up correctly when rotating the 3rd spline.
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### Author:  [@nix](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/nix)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2022, 2:48am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/create-vines-in-3d-space/21732/6 "2022-10-06T02:48:33Z")
I ended up using warped circles and defining a path around my object. Lots of copying, non-uniform scaling, … . It didn’t turn out too bad. Definitely time consuming to say the least. I still have a bit more to go, but I think this method will do fine.
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### Author:  [@TigerMike](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/TigerMike)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2022, 3:42pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/create-vines-in-3d-space/21732/7 "2022-10-06T15:42:15Z")
Seems to work just fine. Here’s mine taken one step further where I scaled the ends as I was performing various sweeps. It has a nice ‘root’ like quality.
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### Author:  [@nix](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/nix)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2022, 3:55pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/create-vines-in-3d-space/21732/8 "2022-10-06T15:55:43Z")
Is there a way to manipulate a spline in all axes? It would be nice if I could move individual points on the spline. I like your approach because I can do it in smaller segments.
The way I have to do it is plan out the layout first and then loft everything at the end as opposed to small sections at a time. I tried doing small sections, but where one section ends and another starts, the joining of the two has too sharp of an angle and doesn’t look right.
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### Author:  [@TigerMike](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/TigerMike)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2022, 4:15pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/create-vines-in-3d-space/21732/9 "2022-10-06T16:15:34Z")
Yes. My example consists of 3 different splines. After rotations, each of them are on separate planes in 3D space.
[https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/shapr3d/original/3X/d/d/dde032ff4487eac3a94f63378fcedf216941d44c.MOV](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/shapr3d/original/3X/d/d/dde032ff4487eac3a94f63378fcedf216941d44c.MOV)
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### Author:  [@Stephen](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Stephen)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2022, 4:15pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/create-vines-in-3d-space/21732/10 "2022-10-06T16:15:49Z")
That worked out very well nix.