# Has there been an update? Absolute or relative measure when making adjustments

**URL:** <https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/has-there-been-an-update-absolute-or-relative-measure-when-making-adjustments/2921>\
**Category:** Modeling Questions\
**Created:** [September 19, 2018, 7:21pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/has-there-been-an-update-absolute-or-relative-measure-when-making-adjustments/2921 "2018-09-19T19:21:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kevlad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Kevlad](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Kevlad)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 7:21pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/has-there-been-an-update-absolute-or-relative-measure-when-making-adjustments/2921/1 "2018-09-19T19:21:43Z")

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Hi,

When doing something like amending an extruded shape, I think you used to be able to reduce the size and the modify the amount of extrusion relative to where you started. E.g. if I have a vertical cylinder and I want to reduce its height by 1mm, I could specify the 1mm change.

It seems now that you need to know the full dimension of the object then extrude to a new dimension as opposed to defining the delta.

Is this behaviour something that can be configured as I prefer being able to define the delta…?

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**Author:** ![Samberino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Samberino](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Samberino)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2018, 10:41am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/has-there-been-an-update-absolute-or-relative-measure-when-making-adjustments/2921/2 "2018-09-28T10:41:53Z")

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I used to reduce or prolonged the distance I needed. But after a update the sistem changed. I need to adjust to the new changes.  
Another thing I don`t like much, is the pencil that appear on the sketc. I guess it is not useful. And become the software heavy.

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**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Rob)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2018, 4:36pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/has-there-been-an-update-absolute-or-relative-measure-when-making-adjustments/2921/3 "2018-10-02T16:36:22Z")

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You can turn the pencil setting off in:-

Settings \> Shapr3D \> Tutorial mode (toggle off)

Agree with the above though extrusions requiring knowledge of the original shape sucks big time. Please revert back.