# Hills, angles and planes
**URL:** https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/hills-angles-and-planes/21380
**Category:** Modeling Questions
**Created:** [September 13, 2022, 6:04pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/hills-angles-and-planes/21380 "2022-09-13T18:04:57Z")
**Posts on this page:** 10
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### Author:  [@Nico](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Nico)
#### Post date: [September 13, 2022, 6:04pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/hills-angles-and-planes/21380/1 "2022-09-13T18:04:57Z")
Hey community,
I know I will feel pretty stupid after someone gives the answer but how do I trace this in shapr3d?
If I do it from top view I can get all the change in angles but cannot give the 4 degree hills at the beginning. If I do it from side view I will have the 4 degree hill (that become flat where I wrote break) but impossible to go to top view to continue the drawing giving the angles.
My main issue here is that I can’t start a line in one view and keep drawing from the end of that line in another view.
I hope I make sense here.
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### Author:  [@SM1](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/SM1)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2022, 1:48am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/hills-angles-and-planes/21380/2 "2022-09-14T01:48:41Z")
You can create both the side view and the top view and just do the intersection:
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### Author:  [@Nico](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Nico)
#### Post date: [September 14, 2022, 9:52pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/hills-angles-and-planes/21380/3 "2022-09-14T21:52:07Z")
Thank you. Anybody else on another way to do this?
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### Author:  [@Nico](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Nico)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2022, 5:28pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/hills-angles-and-planes/21380/4 "2022-09-26T17:28:27Z")
Sorry to keep bothering you guys with this problem but I haven’t found a stable solution yet, could I get more help please?
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### Author:  [@TigerMike](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/TigerMike)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2022, 6:19pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/hills-angles-and-planes/21380/5 "2022-09-26T18:19:25Z")
I think what @SM1 suggested can easily work.
To be honest, I don’t quite follow your wording on your initial post. Here’s a way to achieve what I think you want and do it in steps.
[https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/shapr3d/original/3X/5/0/504832aa055cd395d06b30e0f5e175e7ca94e45b.mov](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/shapr3d/original/3X/5/0/504832aa055cd395d06b30e0f5e175e7ca94e45b.mov)
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### Author:  [@Nico](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Nico)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2022, 8:10pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/hills-angles-and-planes/21380/6 "2022-09-26T20:10:09Z")
Thank you for the help. That would work if it would not make my measurements longer. I can’t figure out how to keep all my measurements with a 4 degree hill at the beginning that becomes flat.
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### Author:  [@Nico](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Nico)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2022, 8:13pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/hills-angles-and-planes/21380/7 "2022-09-26T20:13:47Z")
Here is the file. All dimension need to stay the same in the hill that is 4 degree (up to the line) then flat.
[trouble design.shapr](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/uploads/short-url/afFpfqX317dXvGs3C05Pa5adT74.shapr) (58.9 KB)
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### Author:  [@TigerMike](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/TigerMike)
#### Post date: [September 26, 2022, 8:26pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/hills-angles-and-planes/21380/8 "2022-09-26T20:26:26Z")
Is this what you want to do?
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### Author:  [@Nico](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Nico)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2022, 5:41am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/hills-angles-and-planes/21380/9 "2022-09-27T05:41:58Z")
Looks like it, the part you moved down is going up 4 degrees but looks like it. How do I proceed?
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### Author:  [@TigerMike](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/TigerMike)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2022, 3:30pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/hills-angles-and-planes/21380/10 "2022-09-27T15:30:34Z")
I made the path in two segments. The 2nd segment was rotated 4° up and then down. Your choice.
If you desire to have the path change heights as in a stair step, just break up the path in more segments and move/rotate accordingly.
Hope this helps.
[https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/shapr3d/original/3X/d/9/d93b3f27777a6b6cd8143c1d4a867d1189485ea0.mov](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/shapr3d/original/3X/d/9/d93b3f27777a6b6cd8143c1d4a867d1189485ea0.mov)