# Move-Rotate has changed
**URL:** https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/move-rotate-has-changed/15330
**Category:** Modeling Questions
**Created:** [October 13, 2021, 3:19pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/move-rotate-has-changed/15330 "2021-10-13T15:19:00Z")
**Posts on this page:** 6
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### Author:  [@TigerMike](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/TigerMike)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2021, 3:19pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/move-rotate-has-changed/15330/1 "2021-10-13T15:19:00Z")
What happened to **Move-Rotate** , rotating in 5° snapped increments? Sometimes it rotates smoothly in fractional degrees. Other times it’s back in 5° increments. Personally, I prefer the 5° snapped increments and can always enter exact degrees when necessary. Now with fractional degrees I alway have to key in the desired degree or angle.
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### Author:  [@TheBum](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/TheBum)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2021, 3:34pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/move-rotate-has-changed/15330/2 "2021-10-13T15:34:17Z")
The way it always worked for me was when rotating close to the rotation point, I’d get fractional degrees but if I moved the pen out further after tapping and holding on the rotation arrows, I’d get the 5-degree increments.
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### Author:  [@TigerMike](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/TigerMike)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2021, 3:55pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/move-rotate-has-changed/15330/3 "2021-10-13T15:55:28Z")
I can’t get that to work. Moving the Pencil in or out of the rotation arrows has no effect. Can you share a short video of rotating a part both fractional and in 5° increments?
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### Author:  [@DanielR](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/DanielR)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2021, 4:10pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/move-rotate-has-changed/15330/4 "2021-10-13T16:10:03Z")
Hello Mike - we made some tweaks and if you have _Snap to grid_ OFF in the Snapping menu you don’t have automatic rounding. If you turn ON _Snap to grid_, you should get the 5degree snaps as expected. Hope it makes sense
Your concern is noted though, thanks for the report.
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### Author:  [@TigerMike](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/TigerMike)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2021, 4:18pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/move-rotate-has-changed/15330/5 "2021-10-13T16:18:31Z")
Hi Daniel,
Thank you for the clarification. I thought I was going nuts. Sometimes I turn off snap to grid.
-Mike
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### Author:  [@McD](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/McD)
#### Post date: [October 13, 2021, 4:19pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/move-rotate-has-changed/15330/6 "2021-10-13T16:19:44Z")
Mike, it’s working fine on my iPad. iOS 14.8, latest Shapr3D version.
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