# Need help on organic shapes…

**URL:** <https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/need-help-on-organic-shapes/19219>\
**Category:** Modeling Questions\
**Created:** [May 8, 2022, 5:33am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/need-help-on-organic-shapes/19219 "2022-05-08T05:33:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sjoel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Sjoel](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Sjoel)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 5:33am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/need-help-on-organic-shapes/19219/1 "2022-05-08T05:33:41Z")

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Ho everyone,

I am quiet new to shapr3 but experienced in other 3D programs… I would like to sketch some organic shapes. Attached you‘ll see a. Shape. I really have no clue how to create this kind of shape and then play around with the shape to alter curves, heights etc. Anybody feels like giving me a hint? THX!!

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/shapr3d/original/2X/6/66fe7d4e6474dcd20b0ff900c5e47b460160fbd4.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Sjoel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Sjoel](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Sjoel)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 1:03pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/need-help-on-organic-shapes/19219/3 "2022-05-08T13:03:27Z")

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Thx but the detailed work on the cur’ves/shape is most important. Attached you‘ll see how I started but I cannot loft those 2 base with the top peanut…

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/shapr3d/original/2X/1/197bff23f80314c413674cb2abc62ffee10eb1a8.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Sjoel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Sjoel](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Sjoel)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 1:31pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/need-help-on-organic-shapes/19219/5 "2022-05-08T13:31:50Z")

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Thx!!! I know the drill​:stuck\_out\_tongue\_winking\_eye:😜

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**Author:** ![TigerMike](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/tigermike/32/32650_2.png) [@TigerMike](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/TigerMike)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 6:35pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/need-help-on-organic-shapes/19219/6 "2022-05-08T18:35:01Z")

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Here’s another approach.

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**Author:** ![TigerMike](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/tigermike/32/32650_2.png) [@TigerMike](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/TigerMike)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 6:50pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/need-help-on-organic-shapes/19219/7 "2022-05-08T18:50:31Z")

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Here’s a slight variation with a little more refinement.

[https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/shapr3d/original/2X/5/58a8002221e37435a8e50232c601cb2c42bca698.mov](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/shapr3d/original/2X/5/58a8002221e37435a8e50232c601cb2c42bca698.mov)

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**Author:** ![Sjoel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Sjoel](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Sjoel)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2022, 10:55pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/need-help-on-organic-shapes/19219/9 "2022-05-08T22:55:10Z")

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Hi, Thank you so much for sharing your approach. The only issue is that from a design point of view, controling all curves are crucial. In this approach, the rotation of the top creates the main curve…  
There must be a way in which I can loft with guidelines this body…

Thanks again!!

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**Author:** ![TigerMike](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/tigermike/32/32650_2.png) [@TigerMike](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/TigerMike)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2022, 2:22am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/need-help-on-organic-shapes/19219/10 "2022-05-09T02:22:22Z")

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I understand your desire for accurate curves but consider this- once the organic body is complete, whether shelled or not, it cannot be easily edited. It would be easier to tweak the sketch(s) and create a new. After all, Shapr3D is a direct modeler and not a surface modeler. Looking at your picture and your sketch with guides for lofting, I wonder where you want the accuracy. The picture of the shelled peanut with legs appear to be both left-right and front-rear symmetrical. Even if it was possible to do a guided loft as you initially sketched, I wonder if it would give you the desired result.

 ![peanutBowl](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/shapr3d/original/2X/2/2bbb7795c51d982e826de69459619ace250a0af2.jpeg)

Within Shapr3D’s limitations, your new shape could be constructed more accurately in pieces as in my example. Perhaps you can do a Loft with the main peanuts shape initially instead of a revolve.

In this video I show an interesting use of **Loft** after I project a curve on the curved body. This may work by projecting a more accurate curve sketch on the peanut body. Let us know how things progress.

[https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/shapr3d/original/2X/3/3fcfc434af73c03cf46374074dfd22b0519a1c46.mov](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/shapr3d/original/2X/3/3fcfc434af73c03cf46374074dfd22b0519a1c46.mov)

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**Author:** ![TigerMike](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/tigermike/32/32650_2.png) [@TigerMike](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/TigerMike)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2022, 4:34am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/need-help-on-organic-shapes/19219/11 "2022-05-09T04:34:39Z")

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I was able to do a guided loft on one leg where the larger curved line is projected on the peanut. This version is much cleaner in my opinion. Now it’s a matter of making the peanut shape itself more to your liking. (Sorry about the speed which was needed to fit in 10mb.)

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**Author:** ![PEC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/67e7ee/32.png) [@PEC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/PEC)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2022, 7:41am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/need-help-on-organic-shapes/19219/12 "2022-05-09T07:41:02Z")

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Well done @TigerMike, I think it is the way to go as it creates a shape that is tangent to the peanut so there is surface continuity.

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**Author:** ![Propboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Propboy](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Propboy)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2022, 12:26pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/need-help-on-organic-shapes/19219/13 "2022-05-09T12:26:48Z")

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Thank you sir, this is incredibly helpful. Literally the information I came to the forums to find, thank you for sharing your work.

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**Author:** ![Sjoel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Sjoel](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Sjoel)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2022, 1:57pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/need-help-on-organic-shapes/19219/14 "2022-05-09T13:57:45Z")

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Thank you!!!👍🏻👍🏻

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**Author:** ![TigerMike](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/tigermike/32/32650_2.png) [@TigerMike](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/TigerMike)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2022, 4:01pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/need-help-on-organic-shapes/19219/15 "2022-05-09T16:01:19Z")

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Thank you @PEC. Here’s an interesting phenomenon. Doing a guided loft with this method produces a contoured end surface. It’s as if **Guided Loft** meets **Replace Face**.  
You are most welcome @Propboy.

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**Author:** ![PEC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/67e7ee/32.png) [@PEC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/PEC)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2022, 10:12pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/need-help-on-organic-shapes/19219/16 "2022-05-09T22:12:27Z")

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Thanks for highlighting this phenomenon.  
I wasn’t aware that loft was possible from/to non planar surface, that’s really good to know.

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**Author:** ![TigerMike](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/tigermike/32/32650_2.png) [@TigerMike](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/TigerMike)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2022, 10:23pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/need-help-on-organic-shapes/19219/17 "2022-05-09T22:23:36Z")

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To be honest, I wasn’t aware either. I was experimenting and…surprise! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Propboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Propboy](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Propboy)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2022, 11:47pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/need-help-on-organic-shapes/19219/18 "2022-05-09T23:47:54Z")

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Well heck, this changes everything!

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/shapr3d/original/2X/7/72486034ba1419f8619530e0fc6106fe56fc6c40.jpeg)  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/shapr3d/original/2X/6/62f267792e88ec710bb2b5e1f6bf0532ef94603c.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Sjoel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Sjoel](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Sjoel)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2022, 5:51am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/need-help-on-organic-shapes/19219/19 "2022-05-10T05:51:45Z")

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🤩🤩🤩🤩 great!!!

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**Author:** ![Unicornemporium](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/4af34b/32.png) [@Unicornemporium](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Unicornemporium)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 6:46pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/need-help-on-organic-shapes/19219/20 "2023-09-19T18:46:30Z")

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TigerMike always has the best mini tutorials! I wish he would do a complete series or a class on SkillShare. I would gladly pay for that!

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**Author:** ![sis.l](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@sis.l](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/sis.l)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 5:37pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/need-help-on-organic-shapes/19219/21 "2023-11-09T17:37:44Z")

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I am struggling quite a bit lofting like this, i am trying to make a organic shape of a pebble and it doesn’t want to loft. It keeps saying “All profiles should be position won’t self-intersect”

I really don’t know what i should do can someone please help

 ![Screenshot 2023-11-09 at 17.47.37](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/uploads/shapr3d/original/3X/4/3/43c77edbc9cbc711fe04aced867b345d1a46f57c.jpeg)