# No control point on circle

**URL:** <https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/no-control-point-on-circle/3885>\
**Category:** Modeling Questions\
**Created:** [January 24, 2019, 9:22pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/no-control-point-on-circle/3885 "2019-01-24T21:22:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![Daveodr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8c91f0/32.png) [@Daveodr](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Daveodr)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2019, 9:22pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/no-control-point-on-circle/3885/1 "2019-01-24T21:22:26Z")

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Newbi- just restarting tutorials- problem is I sketch a circle just as in tutorial and I get a center point but no control point on circle itself. With center point not locked, when I drag the circle edge only radius changes. Can only move circle to new position by clicking center control point. My question is - why can I not duplicate what is being done on the tutorial? Have there been some changes since tutorial made?  
Thanks

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**Author:** ![tommyn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/tommyn/32/1714_2.png) [@tommyn](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/tommyn)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 1:53am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/no-control-point-on-circle/3885/2 "2019-01-25T01:53:20Z")

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I think that some videos may be out of sync with some of the latest features.

These videos are to be updated soon according to an announcement here…

Best,

Tommy

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**Author:** ![Lichtagent](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/lichtagent/32/32884_2.png) [@Lichtagent](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Lichtagent)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 2:05pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/no-control-point-on-circle/3885/3 "2019-01-25T14:05:20Z")

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As Tommy already said - the tutorials are unfortunately outdated…

Now you‘ve to select the midpoint and move the circle with the arrows or drag the small rectangle in between.

Let me state again that I think the old method was more intuitive and I still have a hard time to see the benefit of the arrows/box.

Cheers Chris

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**Author:** ![DanielR](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/danielr/32/582_2.png) [@DanielR](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/DanielR)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 2:21pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/no-control-point-on-circle/3885/4 "2019-01-25T14:21:27Z")

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We are waiting for the new release and some improvements on the “arrow”-version - but we will have new ones ready soon after that.

@Daveodr sorry about the experience. Your problem is not related to this other version, but that we have removed that arc-point. Now just select the arc anywhere and drag it.