# Parametric Not Working Well

**URL:** <https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/parametric-not-working-well/31456>\
**Category:** Modeling Questions\
**Created:** [April 23, 2024, 7:44pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/parametric-not-working-well/31456 "2024-04-23T19:44:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![Dennyd101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c2a13f/32.png) [@Dennyd101](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Dennyd101)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 7:44pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/parametric-not-working-well/31456/1 "2024-04-23T19:44:31Z")

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I am attempting to work with the new parametric version. I have a Windows 11 laptop with an i7-13700DH 2400Mhz processor. It has an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 GPU and 64GB of RAM.  
The process with the parametric software is extremely slow it now takes up to 3 minutes to load a model and if I add sub models it again takes 2 to 3 minutes to load.  
The software while working with bodies lags to the point that I cannot accurately place items where I need them. The replicas that I build have as many as 90 separate bodies and probably 200 plus separate sketches. I have tried to build each body on its own then bring it into the main work but the time delay is aggravating.  
Up to this point I have really enjoyed using Shapr3d for my modeling hobby but it is now a frustrating chore to use this software.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Gy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/peter_gy/32/9251_2.png) [@Peter\_Gy](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Peter_Gy)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2024, 6:16am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/parametric-not-working-well/31456/2 "2024-04-24T06:16:56Z")

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Could you please reach out to our support team and share the affected designs? We would need to take a look to understand what causes the performance issues.

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**Author:** ![Dennyd101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c2a13f/32.png) [@Dennyd101](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Dennyd101)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2024, 4:51pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/parametric-not-working-well/31456/3 "2024-04-24T16:51:14Z")

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Thank you for reaching out. I believe my problem is the way I have taught myself how to direct model with Shapr 3D. I use a bunch of haphazard sketches to achieve my desired outcome then tend to delete those sketches. I also will build complete components and save them to use in different models. This was not an issue with direct modeling, but it becomes a problem with parametric modeling when I bring the component into a model it also brings in the associated sketches which tends to clutter up the database. In essence I use Shapr3D as a sketching tool to extrude solid bodies then do not have further use for the sketches.

I have become very comfortable with the tools that Shapr3d provides to help me create my models and I believe I have found a work around which will allow me to continue to use these tools without the issues my haphazard use of these tools creates with parametric modeling.

I am sure that at some point I will get comfortable using parametric modeling efficiently but until that time I will still enjoy my hobby using a little cheat.

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**Author:** ![Xdrakosha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/xdrakosha/32/24881_2.png) [@Xdrakosha](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Xdrakosha)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2024, 5:39pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/parametric-not-working-well/31456/4 "2024-04-24T17:39:26Z")

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> [@Dennyd101](#):
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> when I bring the component into a model it also brings in the associated sketches which tends to clutter up the database.

There is easy fix for that. Just export and import these models in X\_T or STEP format.

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**Author:** ![DerrickDarrell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e79b87/32.png) [@DerrickDarrell](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/DerrickDarrell)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2024, 6:08pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/parametric-not-working-well/31456/5 "2024-04-24T18:08:28Z")

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Ive been having performance issues too. Started using Shapr a year ago and it was working great… now I cant work on an isolated object without Shapr buffering 2-3 time at every mouse click… slow, laggy. Horrible to work with at the moment. Such a downer

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**Author:** ![Istvan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/istvan/32/23668_2.png) [@Istvan](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Istvan)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2024, 6:22pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/parametric-not-working-well/31456/6 "2024-04-24T18:22:49Z")

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If you experience performance issues please share the design with our support team if you can, we’d like to investigate the problem.

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**Author:** ![Oregonerd](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/oregonerd/32/8012_2.png) [@Oregonerd](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Oregonerd)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2024, 6:24pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/parametric-not-working-well/31456/7 "2024-04-24T18:24:11Z")

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If your project is large, try turning off syncing temporarily. It helped me. Be nice to be able to set time custom intervals for syncing and sync on exit maybe.

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**Author:** ![Dennyd101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c2a13f/32.png) [@Dennyd101](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Dennyd101)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2024, 6:56pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/parametric-not-working-well/31456/8 "2024-04-24T18:56:50Z")

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That is my work around. Instead of saving my work as shapr files I save as X\_T. I think is my bad work habits that are causing my issues. I do see the advantage of parametric modeling but until I can get comfortable with it. I will continue to use this method.