# Performance Issues on Windows compared to iPad

**URL:** <https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/performance-issues-on-windows-compared-to-ipad/31720>\
**Category:** Modeling Questions\
**Created:** [May 6, 2024, 9:18am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/performance-issues-on-windows-compared-to-ipad/31720 "2024-05-06T09:18:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![Shaun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/shaun/32/18786_2.png) [@Shaun](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Shaun)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2024, 9:18am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/performance-issues-on-windows-compared-to-ipad/31720/1 "2024-05-06T09:18:57Z")

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Today I’ve sent a file into the Shapr team that is crashing whenever I try to open it. I’m waiting on a response (hasn’t been long) but I was curious if it’d work on my iPad, which it is. That got me thinking further because I’ve used a couple of slow files this morning.

The iPad has been a lot quicker on these files. This is surprising as I thought that my Windows laptop was a lot more powerful. Specs here:

| Device | Asus Zenbook Pro 16" |
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| Processor | 12th Gen Intel(R) Core™ i9-12900H 2.50 GHz |
| Installed RAM | 32.0 GB (31.7 GB usable) |
| System type | 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor |
| Pen and touch | Pen and touch support with 10 touch points |
| OS | Windows 11 |
| GPU | NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop |

My iPad is an M2 12.9" with 8gb of RAM.

Is there anything obvious that I’m missing here? Is my laptop a potato or do iPads just perform a lot better?

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**Author:** ![Istvan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/istvan/32/23668_2.png) [@Istvan](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Istvan)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2024, 9:23am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/performance-issues-on-windows-compared-to-ipad/31720/2 "2024-05-06T09:23:04Z")

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iPads are incredibly powerful, but performance issues are not necessarily directly related to CPU performance. For example the root cause of the performance issue can be in our UI code, which is completely different across platforms to provide a fully native experience on the platform. While performance issues sometimes can be attribuetd to hardware performance, that’s not always the case. Creating proper performance benchmarks between platforms is very hard. That being said, the latest M3 chip’s single core performance is better than the fastest compute instance’s on Amazon cloud, making a $1,000 Macbook Air faster than the most powerful cloud computing instance.

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**Author:** ![Shaun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/shaun/32/18786_2.png) [@Shaun](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Shaun)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2024, 9:32am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/performance-issues-on-windows-compared-to-ipad/31720/3 "2024-05-06T09:32:19Z")

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Is there anything that I can do to improve performance from my end?

I went to Windows last year as needed something better for rendering but it’s bit me in the bollocks ever since. I might jump back across to Apple in the near future.

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**Author:** ![Istvan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/istvan/32/23668_2.png) [@Istvan](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Istvan)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2024, 9:34am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/performance-issues-on-windows-compared-to-ipad/31720/4 "2024-05-06T09:34:18Z")

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I’m afraid only Microsoft could 🙂 Apple Silicon chips are insanely powerful and robust, unfortunately the Windows ecosystem is still stuck in the Intel world. I hope they’ll catch up soon.

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**Author:** ![Shaun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/shaun/32/18786_2.png) [@Shaun](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Shaun)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2024, 9:40am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/performance-issues-on-windows-compared-to-ipad/31720/5 "2024-05-06T09:40:59Z")

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I’ll have to see what your team come back with on my file that no longer works on Windows. This’ll be a nightmare if there’s more issues I’m not aware of yet. It’s the second file I’ve sent in within a few days.

Is it just a case that Shapr3D is more optimised for Apple than Windows then? Or does Windows just have more bullshit running in the background affecting everything? It’s baffling me that a device with 32gb of RAM is out performed by a handheld device with 8gb of RAM.

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**Author:** ![Istvan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/istvan/32/23668_2.png) [@Istvan](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Istvan)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2024, 9:43am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/performance-issues-on-windows-compared-to-ipad/31720/6 "2024-05-06T09:43:57Z")

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I wouldn’t say we are more optimized for Apple platforms. In general due to the fragmentation of the Windows ecosystem, people encounter more issues on Windows.

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**Author:** ![Matthew2224](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dec6dc/32.png) [@Matthew2224](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Matthew2224)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2024, 10:58am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/performance-issues-on-windows-compared-to-ipad/31720/7 "2024-05-06T10:58:13Z")

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And what about MacBook Air M1? Now I’m windows user, but thinging about moving to Apple MacBook. Does M1 MacBook is sufficient for Shapr3D or not?

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**Author:** ![Istvan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/istvan/32/23668_2.png) [@Istvan](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Istvan)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2024, 10:59am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/performance-issues-on-windows-compared-to-ipad/31720/8 "2024-05-06T10:59:12Z")

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Yes, every Apple Silicon chip is extremely powerful. M3 is around ~50% faster than the M1, but the M1 is already more powerful than most Intel based computers.

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**Author:** ![Matthew2224](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dec6dc/32.png) [@Matthew2224](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Matthew2224)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2024, 11:03am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/performance-issues-on-windows-compared-to-ipad/31720/9 "2024-05-06T11:03:51Z")

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Perfect. Thank you for your fast reply