# Problem with plans
**URL:** https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/problem-with-plans/14195
**Category:** Modeling Questions
**Created:** [August 1, 2021, 12:59am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/problem-with-plans/14195 "2021-08-01T00:59:39Z")
**Posts on this page:** 3
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### Author:  [@Nico](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Nico)
#### Post date: [August 1, 2021, 12:59am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/problem-with-plans/14195/1 "2021-08-01T00:59:39Z")
Probably that I just don’t know the trick but it drives me nuts. I’m a welder and I roll material to make arches. Let’s take a piece of tubing 1”x2”, to create it in shapr I trace my arc and create a plane at the end perpendicular to my line. Then the idea is to draw a rectangle 1”x2” from its center at the point “end of the curve”. It is just impossible to do it and I don’t understand why.
Here is a screenshot. Last step is of course to sweep to create the body. Thanks.
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### Author:  [@TigerMike](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/TigerMike)
#### Post date: [August 1, 2021, 2:16am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/problem-with-plans/14195/2 "2021-08-01T02:16:37Z")
Here’s how I did it. I started the 1"x2" rectangle 4" above Y plane. I also started the arc 4" above. The rest is self explanatory. BTW, I didn’t need to create a plane.
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### Author:  [@Nico](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Nico)
#### Post date: [August 2, 2021, 1:21am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/problem-with-plans/14195/3 "2021-08-02T01:21:38Z")
Thank you again for the help. Don’t you think it would me useful to be able to creat a point in one plan that would be reachable in others.