# Removing sketches deletes/modifies bodies

**URL:** <https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/removing-sketches-deletes-modifies-bodies/31277>\
**Category:** Modeling Questions\
**Created:** [April 16, 2024, 8:04am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/removing-sketches-deletes-modifies-bodies/31277 "2024-04-16T08:04:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![MandoMatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a87d85/32.png) [@MandoMatt](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/MandoMatt)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 8:04am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/removing-sketches-deletes-modifies-bodies/31277/1 "2024-04-16T08:04:22Z")

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After the new release of 5.590.0 (6756), deleting sketches has a critical impact on related bodies on my Mac:

1. When removing a sketch that _ **created** _ a body, that body will also be deleted

2. When removing a sketch that _ **modified** _ a body, that body will revert back to its previous state.

I have video examples of both scenarios, but as a new users I can’t upload to this forum. Sorry.

Is this a defect or a feature? If it’s the latter, can this be toggled off?

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**Author:** ![Istvan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/istvan/32/23668_2.png) [@Istvan](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Istvan)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 8:05am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/removing-sketches-deletes-modifies-bodies/31277/2 "2024-04-16T08:05:04Z")

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**Author:** ![MandoMatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a87d85/32.png) [@MandoMatt](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/MandoMatt)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 8:57am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/removing-sketches-deletes-modifies-bodies/31277/3 "2024-04-16T08:57:21Z")

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@Istvan thanks, this information is helpful and answers my question if it’s a defect or feature:

> Please note that deleting sketches will result in all subsequent models also being deleted. You can work around this by hiding Sketches, rather than deleting them, to preserve models you want to keep.

🤔 But I’d still like to know, can this be toggled off? Just hiding sketches isn’t a good workaround. I have designs with hundreds if not thousands of items. And as mentioned before, sometimes a quick throwaway sketch to modify an existing body is part of my workflow.

I love Shapr and appreciate you all, but give users the ability to toggle this off ☹

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**Author:** ![Istvan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/istvan/32/23668_2.png) [@Istvan](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Istvan)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 8:58am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/removing-sketches-deletes-modifies-bodies/31277/4 "2024-04-16T08:58:23Z")

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No, it’s not possible to turn of parametric modeling. Sketches are hidden automatically after you extrude them, and you can also hide them with a single click, just like deleting them.

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**Author:** ![PEC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/67e7ee/32.png) [@PEC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/PEC)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2024, 9:53am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/removing-sketches-deletes-modifies-bodies/31277/5 "2024-04-16T09:53:03Z")

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May I suggest that you create a folder named **Sketches** , hide this folder, and just drag the sketches you don’t want to see into it?  
This is probably the closest behavior vs previous version.

But using the parametric version for a year now in the beta program, I changed my workflow for sure but couldn’t go back without history now. I acknowledge the transition period requires additional efforts but they were worth the benefits for me.

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**Author:** ![TheBum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@TheBum](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/TheBum)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 2:42am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/removing-sketches-deletes-modifies-bodies/31277/6 "2024-04-17T02:42:11Z")

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@PEC This is exactly what I do. I got used to sketch “folders” when I started using Fusion 360. The difference is that the sketches are organized in a special folder automatically in Fusion. I wouldn’t be opposed to a similar automatic grouping in Shapr.

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**Author:** ![nanomammoth](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/nanomammoth/32/26211_2.png) [@nanomammoth](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/nanomammoth)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 6:07am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/removing-sketches-deletes-modifies-bodies/31277/7 "2024-04-30T06:07:29Z")

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I dont know how to tell you this, but the hide feature is missing for me with the update. Items that were hidden before the update show the eye+/ icon to indicate they are hidden. But once I unhide them that disappears never to return. I can find no way to hide anything now. I can isolate selections. But I cant hide anything from the left sidebar. It’s nowhere to be found. I sincerely want the previous version back.

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**Author:** ![Istvan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/istvan/32/23668_2.png) [@Istvan](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Istvan)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 6:11am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/removing-sketches-deletes-modifies-bodies/31277/8 "2024-04-30T06:11:51Z")

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Can you share a screenshot?

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**Author:** ![nanomammoth](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/nanomammoth/32/26211_2.png) [@nanomammoth](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/nanomammoth)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 9:56am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/removing-sketches-deletes-modifies-bodies/31277/9 "2024-05-01T09:56:06Z")

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You know, I wish I had taken a screenshot. I restarted the app a few times and it corrected itself. I don’t know if maybe it had to do with the project being started in a previous version and imported into the current build. But the feature was definitely broken/missing. For whatever its worth I am running shapr on a mac pro with OS Ventura 13.4.1 at the moment.

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**Author:** ![Willywizz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8baadc/32.png) [@Willywizz](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Willywizz)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 9:56am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/removing-sketches-deletes-modifies-bodies/31277/10 "2024-05-01T09:56:37Z")

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Hi Istvan  
Im using the iPad and having the parts list open takes up a lot of my screen space so it’s significantly more clicks or pen taps to open the parts bar find the object, hide it and close it again where as i could just tap the delete key previously. Is there a shortcut i dont know about ? Also the parts tab seems to be buggy on the iPad now i can open it but not close it. As much as I appreciate new features it’s debilitating when they impact the workflow we are used to especially when it means your deleting chunks of your project without realising. A toggle for the feature would be nice but maybe thats not possible.

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**Author:** ![TENZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/57b2e6/32.png) [@TENZ](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/TENZ)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2024, 5:09am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/removing-sketches-deletes-modifies-bodies/31277/11 "2024-05-03T05:09:50Z")

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I’m using shapr3d since three years and I never used parametric software, from my point of view this is quite annoying as user experience if every time that I create a sketch I have to move it to a specific folder to just compress the list of items or give to each a name to recognise them… it would be nice to have an option when you create a new project: parametric you get the latest experience, not parametric and you get the old behaviour. That would solve the issue for me.

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**Author:** ![DxDy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/dxdy/32/13276_2.png) [@DxDy](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/DxDy)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 7:28pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/removing-sketches-deletes-modifies-bodies/31277/12 "2024-05-15T19:28:18Z")

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I’ll add my frustration with deleting sketches, as well. Allowing the user to “remove” them had a decluttering effect in the mobile environment. This one feels fundamental to the UX. I hope the reason for the change becomes more clear.

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**Author:** ![FWP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@FWP](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/FWP)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 6:38pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/removing-sketches-deletes-modifies-bodies/31277/13 "2024-08-12T18:38:24Z")

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This is entirely frustrating and should have never been changed. We now have to deal with cluttered sketch planes that can’t be modified once the bodies have already been extruded.

Please change this back immediately. Almost makes the app unusable.

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**Author:** ![JRayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b782af/32.png) [@JRayfield](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/JRayfield)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 3:24am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/removing-sketches-deletes-modifies-bodies/31277/14 "2024-08-14T03:24:29Z")

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So, when I enter Sketch mode, draw a circle, extrude that circle, then move the resulting cylinder, and the sketch lines of the circle that I’d started with still remain on the screen, right where I started with the circle… is that what everyone is talking about here? If so, I thought I was doing something wrong.

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**Author:** ![Johnmartin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/848f3c/32.png) [@Johnmartin](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Johnmartin)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 4:03am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/removing-sketches-deletes-modifies-bodies/31277/15 "2024-08-14T04:03:07Z")

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Maybe but I have worse problems. Using your example. Once the cylinder is extruded if I want to change the sketch it changes the cylinder.  
If I delete the sketch it deletes the cylinder.  
Sometimes I have to delete the sketch because another feature will not work while the sketch is there eg lofting a larger sketch to the cylinde

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**Author:** ![Johnmartin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/848f3c/32.png) [@Johnmartin](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Johnmartin)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 5:00am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/removing-sketches-deletes-modifies-bodies/31277/16 "2024-08-14T05:00:57Z")

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I agree  
This makes my usage almost impossible without lots of workarounds

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**Author:** ![Edwin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/73ab20/32.png) [@Edwin](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Edwin)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 8:15am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/removing-sketches-deletes-modifies-bodies/31277/17 "2024-08-14T08:15:14Z")

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If you change your design(sketch) why should you also keep the previous 3Dbody? That will give a lot of complicated design steps. Anyway if I am correct you can also merge your steps in the history menu and this will be very easy arranged. There are also lot of tutorials about making different models for model studies.

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**Author:** ![FWP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@FWP](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/FWP)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 11:13am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/removing-sketches-deletes-modifies-bodies/31277/18 "2024-08-15T11:13:27Z")

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It never used to be this way until a recent update. To my understanding there’s no way to disable it either which is a huge mistake. Everything is messier and adds unnecessary steps. Not to mention you now have unwanted snapping issues because the sketch plane is cluttered with lines you can’t delete. If it’s not fixed I won’t be renewing my subscription.

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**Author:** ![Britmax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f6c823/32.png) [@Britmax](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Britmax)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 2:47pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/removing-sketches-deletes-modifies-bodies/31277/19 "2024-08-18T14:47:45Z")

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Yes, you can give me the ability to remove unwanted blue lines without losing hours of work as soon as you like, thanks.

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**Author:** ![Adarra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex002/user_avatar/discourse.shapr3d.com/adarra/32/24681_2.png) [@Adarra](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Adarra)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 2:07pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/removing-sketches-deletes-modifies-bodies/31277/20 "2024-08-20T14:07:59Z")

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I’ve only just started up Shap3rd again and I am incredibly annoyed at this change. It’s not an improvement and it maddens me to no end that I am no longer able to simply delete a sketch once I’m done with it. I don’t understand this change, and I want to see the OPTION to either use this new parametric whatever or not. Let me just delete the stuff I’m done with, thanks.

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