# Terrible performances lately
**URL:** https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/terrible-performances-lately/31777
**Category:** Modeling Questions
**Created:** [May 8, 2024, 11:09pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/terrible-performances-lately/31777 "2024-05-08T23:09:36Z")
**Posts on this page:** 8
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### Author:  [@Do.B](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Do.B)
#### Post date: [May 8, 2024, 11:09pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/terrible-performances-lately/31777/1 "2024-05-08T23:09:36Z")
I’ve been encountering a recurring issue, particularly with sketches. After isolating an element and starting a sketch, the performance takes a nosedive. Sometimes, it’s extremely challenging to precisely target a point.
I suspect this slowdown is due to the size of my assembly, which currently stands at around 2500. However, I don’t recall experiencing such significant sluggishness before the latest big update.
What are my options for addressing this issue? Please, I’m in desperate need of a solution.
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### Author:  [@gpahome](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/gpahome)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2024, 2:28am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/terrible-performances-lately/31777/2 "2024-05-09T02:28:51Z")
Totally agree
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### Author:  [@APDesignMachine](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/APDesignMachine)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2024, 2:37am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/terrible-performances-lately/31777/3 "2024-05-09T02:37:57Z")
> [@Do.B](#):
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> What are my options for addressing this issue? Please, I’m in desperate need of a solution.
Currently none. There’s been a lot of back and forth about performance. A lot of denial, gaslighting, and frustration. The answer is to wait for the new release which removes the HBPM with collapse history (has to be done continuously, not a toggle) and hopefully improves the performance issues.
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### Author:  [@Justin074](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Justin074)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2024, 4:18am UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/terrible-performances-lately/31777/4 "2024-05-09T04:18:39Z")
Same issue for me but it’s anytime I sketch. Not just when in isolation mode.
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPT8jMCOcT8)
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### Author:  [@Do.B](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Do.B)
#### Post date: [May 9, 2024, 3:01pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/terrible-performances-lately/31777/5 "2024-05-09T15:01:28Z")
I isolate every time, but same problem if I do not.
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### Author:  [@DxDy](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/DxDy)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2024, 7:37pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/terrible-performances-lately/31777/6 "2024-05-13T19:37:24Z")
Performance issues never seen before creeping up with ver Version 5.603.0 (6875) on a Mac M2 and iPad Pro (2018), especially related to:
(1) realtime movement of imported objects STL files
(2) opening projects stall and spin on “loading” for upwards of 5 minutes, even empty projects
I love this software so much it feels a bit painful to complain here…but this worries me.
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### Author:  [@Istvan](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/Istvan)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2024, 7:39pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/terrible-performances-lately/31777/7 "2024-05-13T19:39:19Z")
> [@DxDy](#):
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> (1) realtime movement of imported objects STL files
Can you share a problematic design?
> [@DxDy](#):
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> (2) opening projects stall and spin on “loading” for upwards of 5 minutes, even empty projects
This is a known issue, we are working on improving it.
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### Author:  [@DxDy](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/u/DxDy)
#### Post date: [May 15, 2024, 5:42pm UTC](https://discourse.shapr3d.com/t/terrible-performances-lately/31777/8 "2024-05-15T17:42:50Z")
(1) Happens with most everything now (ie. drawing a line it will freeze up). After testing, it may be project specific.
(2) Some projects are almost entirely unusable at the moment. I’m going to list a few things that seems suspicious and/or recently changed, if useful:
[a] History functionality: history + my use of large STL files. Shapr3d is the ONLY software that lets me do anything remotely close to what I want to do with scan data on an iPad. It definitely stretched the limits but remained bulletproof with nothing changing in my workflow.
[b] 2018 iPad on OS 17.5 (will iPad M4 improve any of this?)
[c]. Latest version of Shapr3d
