Creating 5 pipe profiles

Basic question as I’ve been off here a while… I want to have two planes of 2 different configurations of 5 holes and then have pipes to connect between them. At the moment the sketches are on the same plane so how can I lift one sketch plane above the other?
I will then have intermediate plane with different hole patterns that I then want to use to shape the profile of the pipes.
Am I on the right lines here? -.

Just select the sketches that you want to move, and use the Move/Rotate tool to move them. Would that work?

.yes that worked thanks. Now I have four sets of five circle sketches so how would I join each sketch with a profiled pipe to run through each of the four circles. I could then repeat that another 4 times to get the five profiled pipes or round bars I need in 3d.