Improvements for technical/2D drawings

[Ludvig00]

First of all,

I love Shapr3D. Ive worked in a lot of different CAD-programs throughout my life, and even though there is a lot of things that are yet not in place I prefer using Shapr because of the simplicity of the interface and that iPad app lets me work wherever I am. With that said, I still struggle with the technical drawing part of the application. As for now I export my technical drawings from Shapr to PDF and import them to InDesign (Adobe) to make it work. This is not an ideal workflow.

I’ve attached images of how I want my 2D drawing to look like.

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Suggestions of improvements:

Bill of material
I’ve seen in the community this have been adressed before. No need to elaborate on this.

One document
This have also been adressed before. I want my technical drawing, including several pages, to be printable in one document. As for now I have to manually make all the drawings to one PDF.

Boarder without numbers
I want to have the option to have a boarder but with or without numbers/ABC.

Titel block
I want more freedom och making this layout suitable for me, my company or my client.
I want to be able to choose how many rows, how many columns and how to separate the columns.

Saved presets
As for now I redo the Title block for every single drawing. This is very time consuming.
I either want to make a present I can import for specific projects or at least have the same info saved in the title block when making a new drawing in the same project.
This includes the presets for line weight etc.

Line weight
As for now I experience that line weight, dimensions, text etc is some what clumsy/chubby.
The acceptable line weights (in mm) that can be used in a drawing are as follows:
0.18 | 0.25 | 0.35 | 0.5 | 0.7 | 1.0 | 1.4 | 2.0 |
Native for visible outline in Shapr is 0.40 when it should be 0.35 for A2, A3, A4.
Or am I missing something?

Font size
I also would like to have more option in font size.
Have just one font option i can live with.

Dimension position
I want more choices of how to position the dimension.
As for now the dimension is always on the left side on a vertical line. If I have the dimension on the right side of the object I want to have the dimension numbers on the right side of the dimension line. This is impossible now. But I would also like to have the possibility to have a vertical line dimension horizontally displayed in the middle of the line.

Position of Detail view
I want more freedom of choosing where the arrow highlighting the detail is positioned.
As for now it is locked to the upper right of the detail, which can be problematic in a very detailed drawing.
Also, why am I constrained to scale 1:1 as maximum size of a detail? I need some times that the detail is 2:1, 5:1 etc.

Hatches
I suspect you are aware of the problem and that it is on the road map to update this but as for now this is not professionally acceptable. Its very convenient with the automated hatching och the section views, but its very buggy. Some times a section is totally filled making it very hard to understand.

The hatches must be adjustable 360 degrees manually so it can clearly separate different parts of the drawing.
The hatches must be adjustable in how narrow or wide it is between the lines.
I can live with only one hatch type (lines) but over time i think it can be good to extend so we can illustrate different materials.

Auxiliary views
Auxiliary views is an orthographic view that is projected into any plane other than one of the six primary views. These views are typically used when an object contains some sort of inclined plane. Using the auxiliary view allows for that inclined plane (and any other significant features) to be projected in their true size and shape. More complex objects need an auxiliary view for getting the dimensioning right or for communication.

As for now it is possible to work around the the problem with making a separate drawing for this, but should be included in some way. My suggestion i to make it possible to use a plane as a primary view.

Exploded-view drawing
I want to be able to make Exploded-view drawing for communication.
As for now I can’t a sufficient one in drawing mode as the views are very constrained.
I would like this no to be Isometric, but perspective. For the moment i export a rendering from ”visualisation” but would like this to look like all the other drawing, meaning showing just drawing outlines, no texture/color/gray etc.

Named views
In a technical drawing all views should by the book be named, Font view, right view, top view etc.
Its possible to do that now but very time consuming. Preferably this should be changeable to my language manually.

Final thoughts
Wow, this became a long text! Hope I’m not ranting and that it can be to some help. Keep up to good work, Im always eager when there is a new update in your great application. I am sure is the leading CAD program in a few years!

[danno11]

I could not agree with you more when it comes to doing good looking Drawings there needs to be more options to change dimension types for example like having dimension text in line of the dimension lines not always above the dimension line. But you have suggested most of what I would like to see done.

Thank you

[Alexander_P]

Hi Ludvig,

No issues with a long feedback, in fact, these kind of feedbacks are very valuable to us. The drawing examples you shared are very slick, I love how clearly you organised these. Step by step we are also getting there to make it possible to recreate these.

We are aware of the points you shared and we are planning to have capacity on Drawings for the foreseeable future to address as many of the mentioned (and also some not mentioned) points as possible.

There are two items on your list that can be done already:

• you can scale the detail view to 2:1, 5:1 and higher. To do so, you need to scroll down on the pop up that shows the scales.
• you can change multiple type of line widths on the drawing property sidebar. There is only one size that is not possible currently, the 2.0. → What are the use cases when you would need that line width?

Thanks for the feedback and for the engagement with following the updates, I am excited to see your feedback also in a few months

[Ludvig00]

When can we expect updates for the technical drawings?

[Ludvig00]

This bug in the hatching is very annoying. When making a section view the automatic hatching most of the times fills an area completely. This makes it very confusing for carpenters to interpret the drawing and it definitely doesn’t look professional when sending to client. I some times redo the section view 10 times so this filled area is randomly sent to the smallest part of the section.

I really want the hatching to be manually adjusted.

[danno11]

I agree, I have said many times before on this forum that their needs many major improvements (Cross Hatching is just one) to the Drawing side of S3D to get to a competitive Cad Software when it comes to doing Technical Drawings.

Thank you

[Oski]

Detail letter position fixed to top right and not able to reposition it.
Not able to freely pick start point of note leader. Always start on middle of line not good.
Not able to customise drawing headers.

These are 3 main issues in drawings that keep me using Fusion360.

I don’t keep my breath with Shapr staff promising updates in near future, next quarter or this year. I have read numerous promises about coming in “near future” and even after 1,5 year nothing has happened. Unfortunately I have lost trust in their talks.

[danno11]

I agree with you very much and I feel you pain when it comes to creating drawings in Shapr3d they are way behind the rest of the Cad world. My hope is that they do not just put drawing improvements on the back burner like PTC has done with Creo they have made very little if any drawing improvements in the last 8-10 years. I think that a lot of the Cad software companies are losing focus of what the indursty really needs and wants. I have working with Cad for over 30 years and 20 years ago they were all saying that drawing were going to be a thing of the past and go away and here we are 20 years later and all of the vendors still ask for a drawing. I am sure that Shapr3d have a lot on their plate and I believe are doing a good job but I hope that Drawing improvements are at the top of their list.

Thank you