Ugh. I bought the pro subscription this year even though it was a hard one to swallow. As many others it is only a hobby for me.
I am also coming from Fusion 360 and for 250$, I was fine with the missing features compared to Fusion. With that new pricing thought, the free Fusion tier does more and the paid one is cheaper.
Anyway I look at it, there is just no way that Shapr is worth more than Fusion. Fusion has Cam, electric circuit design, surface modeling, assemblies with animation, rendering, generative design, and the list goes on.
So basically, to me, Shapr just priced themselves out.
Logically the goal should be to maximize the features for the hobby tier (to attract people away from competitors), while making sure that anyone that actually makes money with the app pays for the business tier. And the free tier should just be to attract potential customers and let people try the app, but can’t produce anything useful.
With that in mind, I’d suggest to differentiate the hobby and pro tiers by restricting design features, not by forcing hobbyists to discard their files. You can find design features that pros need, but hobbyists don’t.
You already did that with technical drawings, but to give more example you could extend to setting a maximum number of parts for assemblies, removing color, not having renders, etc. Maybe restricting some of the more complex surface/volume creation functions… You get the idea.
At the same time, you could make working on many projects at once inconvenient on the hobby plan, by restricting the “active designs” more (maybe 3 or 4?). But in parallel, let hobbyists export/import Shapr files.
That way you’d let hobbyists design simple models and keep them around, but any professional will want to pay up to get rid of the inconvenience of closing/importing many files, and will need the advanced design features.
In parallel that would make some hobbyists share Shapr-format files in their communities, so I’d consider letting the free tier open Shapr files (but not export). Letting anyone open hobby files shared on the internet would draw new users to try the app, and they’d need to subscribe to do anything useful with those.
I’ve never used the program but I’ve been following this forum for a few months and believe it has great potential. I appreciate the continued development and the back and forth with the developers on this site.
I bought in at 250 last weekend, and I don’t even have an iPad- I’ve been waiting for the new update which may be announced as early as next week.
I bought in for the ability to work on iPad with the pencil and because it’s a much more portable system for travel. I think it’s probably worth a year’s trial at 250, but I can see why people might balk at paying double that.
I have no idea whether the price increase for the full version, or the price decrease for a hobbled version is good for the company or not- but until they decide to change the model again that’s the way it is. I would imagine that making a fully featured version available at a price point less than 500 would allow a bigger user base- I would have been far less tempted at 500 myself…
Look forward to a new iPad and pencil soon- and look forward to using it on my Mac as soon as I get the chance-
In my opinion, the Pro version has the level of a Hobby CAD and is much too expensive.
After “good” should come “very good” and not “arrogance”!
The passage of time shows whether subscriptions are being taken out and how many will be kept after a month.
For me (a hobbyist) there are two deal-breakers with the new hobby plan:
having to permanently throw away designs in order to create new ones is not acceptable to me. If I design something, I want those plans somehow available to me forever. I simply wouldn’t buy into a situation where that was not possible.
I use Shapr mainly for woodworking and CNC. So being able to export to a ubiquitous format (ie obj) is an essential feature in order to actually make the things I design.
3D printing gets all the glam at the moment but I think a large part of that market is people just downloading and printing other people’s STLs from thingiverse. I suspect the number of folks with 3D printers prepared to stump up $150 a year for software (probably more than a lot of them paid for their printer in the first place) is actually relatively small. So I would question whether that is really the best market to focus the hobby plan on. Plus a standard import/export format such as obj would let them work with Cura or similar anyway.
The software, for me, is amazing. I absolutely love designing in Shapr and I appreciate that there is a massive amount of work and resource gone in to making it. But for a hobbyist $240 a year was already a massive outlay. if I were in the position I were in when I signed up for the pro plan, the hobby plan would be of no use to me and the business plan completely unaffordable.
Ditch the STL import / export, replace it with obj (so I can load designs into any other CAM / slicer software) and native shapr (so I can archive and restore old designs) and then I’d have something I could consider.
hi Istvan,
It is a huge increase, i started with Shapr because it is affordeble for our organization, we have test, with succes our design on de CNC machines ( wood and Aluminum). Now that we will go live with two more colleagues the price is increased to plus 1000 dollar instead of 480 dollar. Fusion 360 ( regally there are 1/3 rebate offers) cost less and have more functions in the drawing. Sorry but for 500 dollar is fusion 360 the bether choice, but i must say, shapr3d was a nice way to start with 3d designing.
regards peter
oh dear - I was so excited at the 2D drawing announcement - I recently moved to Fusion360 for that very reason. I thought I was on the business package with Shapr3D and see I am not and really can’t justify spending $500 per year on Shapr3D and Fusion360 - which to be honest has a lot of advantages at the moment and only cost me $240! What to do…
Hi Istvan,
We make doors and need drawings for presentation, production and send them to the cnc machine. Early January I make the decision that we must start to move from 2 d ( draftsight) to 3D as Apple user I found shapr 3D and it was a go. Last week a bought a iPad and pencil for my colleague to start with Shapr and for April a had planned to buy a iPad for the other colleague ( to spread the cost). But than I saw the price increase.
Must say you turn around my business plan🙁.
We make special doors www.Broporte.com
Peter